Agneepath Scheme replaced with Sainik Samman Scheme 2024, Defence Minister Rajnath Singh Relaunched Agniveer Scheme
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Discover the Sainik Samman Scheme 2024, its significant changes, and benefits compared to the previous Agneepath Scheme. Understand how this new initiative enhances opportunities for Indian youth in defense services.
The Sainik Samman Scheme 2024 is a revamped version of the Agneepath Scheme, introduced to provide better opportunities and benefits for individuals joining the Indian defense services. Launched by Defense Minister Rajnath Singh on June 23, 2024, this scheme aims to offer enhanced career prospects, financial security, and improved service conditions for soldiers.
Key Changes and Benefits under the Sainik Samman Scheme
1. Increased Permanency:
- Previous Scheme (Agneepath): Only 25% of Agniveers were made permanent.
- Sainik Samman Scheme: 60% of Agniveers will be granted permanent positions, with all technical post Agniveers becoming permanent.
2. Extended Service Period:
- Previous Scheme: The duty period was 4 years.
- Sainik Samman Scheme: The duty period is now extended to 7 years, ensuring longer job security.
3. Enhanced Training and Leave:
- Training Period: Increased from 24 weeks to 42 weeks.
- Leave: Annual leave has been increased from 30 days to 45 days.
4. Financial Improvements:
- Total Income: Increased from ₹22 lakhs to ₹41 lakhs over the service period.
- Retirement Fund: Enhanced to ₹41 lakhs.
- Death Benefits: In case of a soldier's death, the family will receive ₹75 lakhs and the status of a martyr.
5. Job Guarantee and Relaxations:
- Job Security: After 7 years of service, soldiers are guaranteed a permanent job.
- Central Vacancy Relaxation: Increased from 10% to 15% for all central vacancies.
6. Status and Recognition:
- Soldiers recruited under the Sainik Samman Scheme will no longer be called Agniveers.
- In case of death, soldiers will be granted the status of a warrior and their families will receive full assistance and honors.
Differences Between Agneepath Scheme and Sainik Samman Scheme
Implementation Details
The Sainik Samman Scheme will be officially implemented nationwide on June 23, 2024. It applies to all new recruits from February 2024 onwards. Existing Agniveers recruited before this date will not be covered under the new scheme.
Conclusion
The Sainik Samman Scheme 2024 introduces significant improvements over the Agneepath Scheme, providing better financial benefits, job security, and enhanced service conditions for Indian soldiers. These changes aim to attract more youth to join the defense services and ensure their well-being and career growth.
This comprehensive overhaul reflects the government's commitment to honoring and supporting the nation's soldiers, ensuring they receive the respect and benefits they deserve.
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Capt KK Shoree
2024-06-16 12:42:06
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt. jobs.
2024-06-16 12:42:06
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt. jobs.
Capt KK Shoree
2024-06-16 12:42:39
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt. jobs.
2024-06-16 12:42:39
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt. jobs.
Capt KK Shoree
2024-06-16 12:42:47
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt. jobs.
2024-06-16 12:42:47
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt. jobs.
Col Padmanabh Joshi (Retd)
2024-06-16 13:16:25
At first you do a blunder by implementing a stupid scheme. Now you are doing bigger blunder by taking half hearted efforts to modify it. Most unprofessional approach by the MoD
2024-06-16 13:16:25
At first you do a blunder by implementing a stupid scheme. Now you are doing bigger blunder by taking half hearted efforts to modify it. Most unprofessional approach by the MoD
Ashok carrol
2024-06-16 13:25:46
The compensation for death must be one crore for those in villages and two crores for those living in cities. The old parents siblings be given life long medical and health insurance cards renewable every 10 years or upgraded . The family must be provided decent accommodation and if married wifes education and job ensured in good school college and post graduation till settled . Property of old parents wife siblings be ensured of safety so that local goons lawyers police politicians do not connive and take over . Judges courts must be empowered to restore the forcibly acquired property distresssale of houses lands within weeks and not tareek pe tareek . District , high court Lawyers must be sensitised and fees for court cases Laid down and within the families paying capacity .
2024-06-16 13:25:46
The compensation for death must be one crore for those in villages and two crores for those living in cities. The old parents siblings be given life long medical and health insurance cards renewable every 10 years or upgraded . The family must be provided decent accommodation and if married wifes education and job ensured in good school college and post graduation till settled . Property of old parents wife siblings be ensured of safety so that local goons lawyers police politicians do not connive and take over . Judges courts must be empowered to restore the forcibly acquired property distresssale of houses lands within weeks and not tareek pe tareek . District , high court Lawyers must be sensitised and fees for court cases Laid down and within the families paying capacity .
Lt Col Kuldip Singh Sandhu
2024-06-16 14:18:46
Another Lollypop to befool unemployed youth. Not likely to cut ice with aspiring rural youth. Bound to fail
2024-06-16 14:18:46
Another Lollypop to befool unemployed youth. Not likely to cut ice with aspiring rural youth. Bound to fail
Dharmendra Rathore
2024-06-16 14:29:44
Agneeveer was implemented without considering the ground facts, now, some added benefits are good enough
2024-06-16 14:29:44
Agneeveer was implemented without considering the ground facts, now, some added benefits are good enough
Dharmendra Rathore
2024-06-16 14:29:56
Agneeveer was implemented without considering the ground facts, now, some added benefits are good enough
2024-06-16 14:29:56
Agneeveer was implemented without considering the ground facts, now, some added benefits are good enough
Joginder Singh
2024-06-16 14:34:58
Provision of pension for NOK must be included for martyrs and job for son daughter as authorised to other civil employees.. good point that full retention of technical is included because cost of training a technician is much more.. government aim is just to prune the pension bill but it isa huge compromise with national security.. day by day bureaucrats are making armed forces career unattractive and last motivation of pension is also threatened will force government to outsource man power to operate its sophisticated weapons. Defence pay pensions are less than free rations of 2.2 lakh crores which started in 2020 covid.. Mig 21 brings down F 16 because of better motivated man behind machine.. government sees every thing with a prism of vote…
2024-06-16 14:34:58
Provision of pension for NOK must be included for martyrs and job for son daughter as authorised to other civil employees.. good point that full retention of technical is included because cost of training a technician is much more.. government aim is just to prune the pension bill but it isa huge compromise with national security.. day by day bureaucrats are making armed forces career unattractive and last motivation of pension is also threatened will force government to outsource man power to operate its sophisticated weapons. Defence pay pensions are less than free rations of 2.2 lakh crores which started in 2020 covid.. Mig 21 brings down F 16 because of better motivated man behind machine.. government sees every thing with a prism of vote…
Satish Kumar Bali
2024-06-16 14:36:37
The benefits of this scheme could also be extended to the Agniveers which would motivate the Agniveers to do even better and this will send a positive message in the country to believe that the present Govt is indeed interested in the welfare of our Armed force personnel.
2024-06-16 14:36:37
The benefits of this scheme could also be extended to the Agniveers which would motivate the Agniveers to do even better and this will send a positive message in the country to believe that the present Govt is indeed interested in the welfare of our Armed force personnel.
Tejinder Singh Thind
2024-06-16 14:37:16
Granted job after 7 years is important. Govt should insure that. Alternatively all persons joining centre govt job should serve in army, then go to their respective jobs.
2024-06-16 14:37:16
Granted job after 7 years is important. Govt should insure that. Alternatively all persons joining centre govt job should serve in army, then go to their respective jobs.
LtCol Santosh Kumar Panda
2024-06-16 14:50:36
Revised scheme must cover all members retrospectively as it may demotivare them.There will be comparative studies & it will adversely effect the human resource management.
2024-06-16 14:50:36
Revised scheme must cover all members retrospectively as it may demotivare them.There will be comparative studies & it will adversely effect the human resource management.
AVM K Ramesh Karnik Veteran
2024-06-16 15:02:10
Welcome changes. Timely course correction. Hope no more tampering with well established norms of building efficient, effective & committed patriotic forces for the service of Bharath our motherland. Jai Hind
2024-06-16 15:02:10
Welcome changes. Timely course correction. Hope no more tampering with well established norms of building efficient, effective & committed patriotic forces for the service of Bharath our motherland. Jai Hind
Vikash Kumar
2024-06-16 15:06:50
Agniveer. Ko hataye pure tarah se keyo ki hamre nawjawno ke dikat hoti hai plese bjp sarkar se aagrah karte hai ki nawjawno se khilwad mat kare aur ke Modi jo phir se moka maga aur janta ne de Diya usi tarah ek nawjawno ki bath sune Modi gi se Mai Agra karta hu please please please ?
2024-06-16 15:06:50
Agniveer. Ko hataye pure tarah se keyo ki hamre nawjawno ke dikat hoti hai plese bjp sarkar se aagrah karte hai ki nawjawno se khilwad mat kare aur ke Modi jo phir se moka maga aur janta ne de Diya usi tarah ek nawjawno ki bath sune Modi gi se Mai Agra karta hu please please please ?
Col Anoop Khare
2024-06-16 15:11:43
60% retention is ok. Balance be absorbed in PMF. Also military service of 5 yrs be made compulsory for all PMF and state police force. five yrs compulsory service of all central govt inductees in armed forces.
2024-06-16 15:11:43
60% retention is ok. Balance be absorbed in PMF. Also military service of 5 yrs be made compulsory for all PMF and state police force. five yrs compulsory service of all central govt inductees in armed forces.
Col Anil Passi
2024-06-16 15:18:27
This is good. Should crease out a lot of gray As which were a issue incl the recruitment of Nepalese boys for the Gorkha Regts.
2024-06-16 15:18:27
This is good. Should crease out a lot of gray As which were a issue incl the recruitment of Nepalese boys for the Gorkha Regts.
Vivek Chadha
2024-06-16 15:28:10
Leave the forces to the forces please, they know whats best for them . It is like an unsolicited advice from people who don’t appreciate the long term consequences . Please don’t try to fix something which ain’t broke.
2024-06-16 15:28:10
Leave the forces to the forces please, they know whats best for them . It is like an unsolicited advice from people who don’t appreciate the long term consequences . Please don’t try to fix something which ain’t broke.
Lt Col Gurbrinder Singh
2024-06-16 15:29:49
A more viable & balanced scheme. Now it will find favour with more youth. One suggestion -- if after 7 yrs a limited facilities benefit / on a reduced scale, e.g. canteen, etc could be extended to those not selected for permanency.
2024-06-16 15:29:49
A more viable & balanced scheme. Now it will find favour with more youth. One suggestion -- if after 7 yrs a limited facilities benefit / on a reduced scale, e.g. canteen, etc could be extended to those not selected for permanency.
Mukesh kumar Bawa
2024-06-16 15:30:46
Very good scheme. Must include all earlier cases as well in this retrospectively else there will be dissent again.
2024-06-16 15:30:46
Very good scheme. Must include all earlier cases as well in this retrospectively else there will be dissent again.
Jitendra Kumar Singh
2024-06-16 15:32:55
Radar,radio tanks, missiles, rockets, Ad guns, artillery,fighters aircraft, navalship,submarines trained soldiers are assets to defense after training. Government can exploit these guys for longer periods for 20 yrs because let BE/B Teck/M Teck direct condidates can't challenge those experienced fellows as few of them gets foreign training I e Russia, Israel, usa,UK and france. This is my personal experience as retired defense person.
2024-06-16 15:32:55
Radar,radio tanks, missiles, rockets, Ad guns, artillery,fighters aircraft, navalship,submarines trained soldiers are assets to defense after training. Government can exploit these guys for longer periods for 20 yrs because let BE/B Teck/M Teck direct condidates can't challenge those experienced fellows as few of them gets foreign training I e Russia, Israel, usa,UK and france. This is my personal experience as retired defense person.
Col Pankaj
2024-06-16 15:33:10
Service be implemented with retrospective effect for all Agniveers and those being selected after completion of duty period their service should be counted towards pension.
2024-06-16 15:33:10
Service be implemented with retrospective effect for all Agniveers and those being selected after completion of duty period their service should be counted towards pension.
Sub Maj Rajesh Kumar (Retd)
2024-06-16 15:34:42
Still half hearted effort. Agniveer scheme infact lowered down the number of seats and percentage of votes in Lok Sabha elections. A lot of Ex servicemen are awaiting their legitimate dues pending despite AFT/High Courts/Apex Court decisions. Government to form more public centric policies as it's directly related to the national security.
2024-06-16 15:34:42
Still half hearted effort. Agniveer scheme infact lowered down the number of seats and percentage of votes in Lok Sabha elections. A lot of Ex servicemen are awaiting their legitimate dues pending despite AFT/High Courts/Apex Court decisions. Government to form more public centric policies as it's directly related to the national security.
Ghanshyam Singh Katoch
2024-06-16 15:56:51
I know young men who got through normal recruitment on eve of introduction of Agniveer scheme, they had to reappear for Agniveer, got into it, and now may not be covered by whatever new terms are unveiled if the scheme is not retrospective as this article states. Would be grossly unfair to them.
2024-06-16 15:56:51
I know young men who got through normal recruitment on eve of introduction of Agniveer scheme, they had to reappear for Agniveer, got into it, and now may not be covered by whatever new terms are unveiled if the scheme is not retrospective as this article states. Would be grossly unfair to them.
Col V K Jaitly
2024-06-16 15:58:20
Much better scheme THAN Agniveer.Wll provide more recruitment, better trg & LONGER service.Pay & other financial benefits much better. Hope in This scheme more Recruitment will be there.
2024-06-16 15:58:20
Much better scheme THAN Agniveer.Wll provide more recruitment, better trg & LONGER service.Pay & other financial benefits much better. Hope in This scheme more Recruitment will be there.
RAHUL BASUMATARY
2024-06-16 16:01:33
It's a excellent scheme to provide a batter life experience for a millitary service
2024-06-16 16:01:33
It's a excellent scheme to provide a batter life experience for a millitary service
Lt Col Perupkar Singh Sibia
2024-06-16 16:03:18
Retirement after 7 years service.Govt will give him Rs 4100000.Instead if this money is put in any Govt Bank. All his life he will get Rs 21500 interest from his Fixed Deposit of Rs 4100000 Almost like regular pension at the interset of 6%.After his demise his wife/ any family members illegible similar benefits. In case of death his family / illegible parents 6% interest on Rs 7500000 on fixed deposit comes Rs 37500/.This point is very valuable. With best wishes , regards and respect.Stay Always Blessed.
2024-06-16 16:03:18
Retirement after 7 years service.Govt will give him Rs 4100000.Instead if this money is put in any Govt Bank. All his life he will get Rs 21500 interest from his Fixed Deposit of Rs 4100000 Almost like regular pension at the interset of 6%.After his demise his wife/ any family members illegible similar benefits. In case of death his family / illegible parents 6% interest on Rs 7500000 on fixed deposit comes Rs 37500/.This point is very valuable. With best wishes , regards and respect.Stay Always Blessed.
Sudhir khonge
2024-06-16 16:03:29
Totally wronge scheme ... Indian army inter totally politics Army required minimum 60 day leave
2024-06-16 16:03:29
Totally wronge scheme ... Indian army inter totally politics Army required minimum 60 day leave
Col Pankaj Sharma
2024-06-16 16:05:43
Only hope these get implemented in letter and spirit . Need clarity on induction of Gorkha troops , one of the best soldiers in the world which we stand to lose if we donot adress the issue ibid.
2024-06-16 16:05:43
Only hope these get implemented in letter and spirit . Need clarity on induction of Gorkha troops , one of the best soldiers in the world which we stand to lose if we donot adress the issue ibid.
JS Budhwar
2024-06-16 16:29:49
All schemes should be applied to all Govt jobs, not selectively to Army. Agnipath Scheme was pathetic bureaucracy job like OROP which have embarrassed Modiji and BJP lost a lot. More loss to BJP in forthcoming elections.
2024-06-16 16:29:49
All schemes should be applied to all Govt jobs, not selectively to Army. Agnipath Scheme was pathetic bureaucracy job like OROP which have embarrassed Modiji and BJP lost a lot. More loss to BJP in forthcoming elections.
JS Budhwar
2024-06-16 16:31:40
All schemes should be applied to all Govt jobs, not selectively to Army. Agnipath Scheme was pathetic bureaucracy job like OROP which have embarrassed Modiji and BJP lost a lot. More loss to BJP in forthcoming elections.
2024-06-16 16:31:40
All schemes should be applied to all Govt jobs, not selectively to Army. Agnipath Scheme was pathetic bureaucracy job like OROP which have embarrassed Modiji and BJP lost a lot. More loss to BJP in forthcoming elections.
Shikher Chandra
2024-06-16 16:36:56
Only those SC/ST/OBC and other categories should be given quota benefits in jobs / professional courses only if they spend 4 years after 10th as Agniveers.
2024-06-16 16:36:56
Only those SC/ST/OBC and other categories should be given quota benefits in jobs / professional courses only if they spend 4 years after 10th as Agniveers.
JS Budhwar
2024-06-16 16:37:26
Tour Of Duty as recommended by 6th Pay Commission can be made an excellent scheme for everyone ie a totally WIN WIN situation for the country and all departments, if and only IF , Agnipath is made mandatory requirement for applying for all Govt jobs including PMF, Police, peon to IAS. All departments and services will benefit with fully trained officers and men, joining them after Agnipath And the best people will opt for Agnipath scheme due to assured career after 4 - 7 years. Agnipath should be for officers also and not for Soldiers only. After Tour Of Duty of 4 years, all Govt jobs will be filled up by fit, patriotic, combat experienced, motivated Agniveer for whom it will be always NationFirst Govt will not only save on pension but can reduce the recruitment, training period costs in other services.One point to ponder Why do we need so many recruitment agencies ie separate for Defense, BSF, CRPF, State Police and other forces ? Why can't we have one recruitment agency for Agnipath and after 4 years, side step trained Agniveer to other organizations ? But if Only aim of the scheme is to reduce expenditure only then all other so called benefits like younger age profile, discipline in society, better resume on release have been invented to justify. Efficacy will emerge only after few years. ?????
2024-06-16 16:37:26
Tour Of Duty as recommended by 6th Pay Commission can be made an excellent scheme for everyone ie a totally WIN WIN situation for the country and all departments, if and only IF , Agnipath is made mandatory requirement for applying for all Govt jobs including PMF, Police, peon to IAS. All departments and services will benefit with fully trained officers and men, joining them after Agnipath And the best people will opt for Agnipath scheme due to assured career after 4 - 7 years. Agnipath should be for officers also and not for Soldiers only. After Tour Of Duty of 4 years, all Govt jobs will be filled up by fit, patriotic, combat experienced, motivated Agniveer for whom it will be always NationFirst Govt will not only save on pension but can reduce the recruitment, training period costs in other services.One point to ponder Why do we need so many recruitment agencies ie separate for Defense, BSF, CRPF, State Police and other forces ? Why can't we have one recruitment agency for Agnipath and after 4 years, side step trained Agniveer to other organizations ? But if Only aim of the scheme is to reduce expenditure only then all other so called benefits like younger age profile, discipline in society, better resume on release have been invented to justify. Efficacy will emerge only after few years. ?????
JS Budhwar
2024-06-16 16:41:16
As recommended by earlier Committees, the ideal solution would be for the over 10 lakh troops of the PMF and CPOs to first do an Agniveer stint with the Army and then at 21-22 years of age go to their parent PMF or CPO fully trained. Not only will this provide better trained manpower to the PMFs and CPOs, but it will also greatly synergise mutual understanding and training between elements of the MoD and MHA. In tomorrow’s battlefield, where the fourth and fifth estates merge with social media warriors from across borders, influencing opinions and actions with plausible deniability, having more trained and aware forces with lateral synergy between MoD and MHA forces – all equally organs of the State, can only be to national security benefit.
2024-06-16 16:41:16
As recommended by earlier Committees, the ideal solution would be for the over 10 lakh troops of the PMF and CPOs to first do an Agniveer stint with the Army and then at 21-22 years of age go to their parent PMF or CPO fully trained. Not only will this provide better trained manpower to the PMFs and CPOs, but it will also greatly synergise mutual understanding and training between elements of the MoD and MHA. In tomorrow’s battlefield, where the fourth and fifth estates merge with social media warriors from across borders, influencing opinions and actions with plausible deniability, having more trained and aware forces with lateral synergy between MoD and MHA forces – all equally organs of the State, can only be to national security benefit.
Shiv mishra
2024-06-16 16:44:07
This will not for the old recruited agniveer... what are there faults..they recruited early...this is their fault???
2024-06-16 16:44:07
This will not for the old recruited agniveer... what are there faults..they recruited early...this is their fault???
Col RP Shrivastava
2024-06-16 16:45:31
Speaks poorly on functioning of a Govt. You just don't do something without evaluating it fairly and seeking feedbacks from all concerned. From day1, it attracts criticism, far & wide (only Govt couldn't perceive it before implementing). Then you do some improvement but sure you will need more & soon. What is so sacrosanct about 7 years, after 42 weeks of training? Why retention of only 60%, 75% would be more fair & assuring. Then where you absorb 40%, in matching qualification Vs job content? Are they to be absorbed as guards all over?
2024-06-16 16:45:31
Speaks poorly on functioning of a Govt. You just don't do something without evaluating it fairly and seeking feedbacks from all concerned. From day1, it attracts criticism, far & wide (only Govt couldn't perceive it before implementing). Then you do some improvement but sure you will need more & soon. What is so sacrosanct about 7 years, after 42 weeks of training? Why retention of only 60%, 75% would be more fair & assuring. Then where you absorb 40%, in matching qualification Vs job content? Are they to be absorbed as guards all over?
Capt Raju kothari
2024-06-16 16:49:49
If factual than its a Sensible rethink.But pl donot make mil service mandatory. And no reservations and quota system pl.Jai Hind.
2024-06-16 16:49:49
If factual than its a Sensible rethink.But pl donot make mil service mandatory. And no reservations and quota system pl.Jai Hind.
Karan Johal, EX Navy
2024-06-16 16:50:13
This is one of big reasons why BJP could not do well in LOK SABHA elections. This is a very stupid scheme...Must be scrapped. I'm a big follower a BJP ideology excluding this one.
2024-06-16 16:50:13
This is one of big reasons why BJP could not do well in LOK SABHA elections. This is a very stupid scheme...Must be scrapped. I'm a big follower a BJP ideology excluding this one.
Hony Sub Maj Sudhakaran PA (Retd)
2024-06-16 16:51:01
Annual leave be increases from 45 days to 60 days being the soldiers are engaged with 24/7 duty. The employees both Central & state govts are availing all Sundays/holidays. Mandatory army service as a criteria for jobs in Central/state goverment.
2024-06-16 16:51:01
Annual leave be increases from 45 days to 60 days being the soldiers are engaged with 24/7 duty. The employees both Central & state govts are availing all Sundays/holidays. Mandatory army service as a criteria for jobs in Central/state goverment.
Subhash Bhaurao Patil
2024-06-16 16:55:25
The changes in the scheme clearly reflects the transperancy in the Govt. policy. Benefits offered are better than the previous one for the candidates. I liked it.
2024-06-16 16:55:25
The changes in the scheme clearly reflects the transperancy in the Govt. policy. Benefits offered are better than the previous one for the candidates. I liked it.
Ishan Mohapatra
2024-06-16 16:55:54
Finally the realization has come that entire knowledge of the country doesn't reside in South block. Complete roll back would have been the best option, but South block can't digest loss of face. Regrettably forces develops supine spine to agree to such stupidity. Of only the election results can force decisions on security related matters of the country, we are seriously handicapped as a nation.
2024-06-16 16:55:54
Finally the realization has come that entire knowledge of the country doesn't reside in South block. Complete roll back would have been the best option, but South block can't digest loss of face. Regrettably forces develops supine spine to agree to such stupidity. Of only the election results can force decisions on security related matters of the country, we are seriously handicapped as a nation.
Narendra
2024-06-16 16:58:56
Performance wise agniveer scheme is just to placement. Their Performance is just nil. Other supervisory staff are involved to performed duty as they joined in service in respect of their rank, just fulfill shortage of manpower in service in respect of trade related functions. Security is prime concern and presently people has been utilised for that purpose in spite of their trade related functions.
2024-06-16 16:58:56
Performance wise agniveer scheme is just to placement. Their Performance is just nil. Other supervisory staff are involved to performed duty as they joined in service in respect of their rank, just fulfill shortage of manpower in service in respect of trade related functions. Security is prime concern and presently people has been utilised for that purpose in spite of their trade related functions.
Lt Col Sudarshan Singh Parmar (Vetran)
2024-06-16 17:06:37
To make Agniveer more attractive, application for Government job , experience of Agniveer must be compulsory .
2024-06-16 17:06:37
To make Agniveer more attractive, application for Government job , experience of Agniveer must be compulsory .
Devinder Singh Sandhu
2024-06-16 17:06:57
Not at all agree.It is just Jalebi over Jalebi.Foresee lot of complications like that of ECOs,SSCOs, Ladies SSCOs as lot of cases in various Courts/Tribunals. Normal Rectt is much better & should be fast paced and at regular intervals, to avoid such Political gimmicks. Don't foresee any SAMMAN in this scheme. If it's dirty Vote Bank Raajniti,the Def Ministery may continue to Appease the Bosses at the cost of Army/Defence Forces reputation. Govt must shelve this scheme forthwith.
2024-06-16 17:06:57
Not at all agree.It is just Jalebi over Jalebi.Foresee lot of complications like that of ECOs,SSCOs, Ladies SSCOs as lot of cases in various Courts/Tribunals. Normal Rectt is much better & should be fast paced and at regular intervals, to avoid such Political gimmicks. Don't foresee any SAMMAN in this scheme. If it's dirty Vote Bank Raajniti,the Def Ministery may continue to Appease the Bosses at the cost of Army/Defence Forces reputation. Govt must shelve this scheme forthwith.
Devinder Singh Sandhu
2024-06-16 17:07:48
Not at all agree.It is just Jalebi over Jalebi.Foresee lot of complications like that of ECOs,SSCOs, Ladies SSCOs as lot of cases in various Courts/Tribunals. Normal Rectt is much better & should be fast paced and at regular intervals, to avoid such Political gimmicks. Don't foresee any SAMMAN in this scheme. If it's dirty Vote Bank Raajniti,the Def Ministery may continue to Appease the Bosses at the cost of Army/Defence Forces reputation. Govt must shelve this scheme forthwith.
2024-06-16 17:07:48
Not at all agree.It is just Jalebi over Jalebi.Foresee lot of complications like that of ECOs,SSCOs, Ladies SSCOs as lot of cases in various Courts/Tribunals. Normal Rectt is much better & should be fast paced and at regular intervals, to avoid such Political gimmicks. Don't foresee any SAMMAN in this scheme. If it's dirty Vote Bank Raajniti,the Def Ministery may continue to Appease the Bosses at the cost of Army/Defence Forces reputation. Govt must shelve this scheme forthwith.
Safique Khan
2024-06-16 17:26:27
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt jobs.... ???? ????? ?? ?? ?? ???????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ??? ?? ?
2024-06-16 17:26:27
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt jobs.... ???? ????? ?? ?? ?? ???????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ??? ?? ?
Nb Sub Safique Khan
2024-06-16 17:27:47
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt jobs.... ???? ????? ?? ?? ?? ???????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ??? ?? ?
2024-06-16 17:27:47
Military service should be compulsory before employment in Govt jobs.... ???? ????? ?? ?? ?? ???????? ?? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ??? ?? ?
Mohan Dasan
2024-06-16 17:34:11
After 7 yrs they should be absorbed in other central services. 100 percent of cisf and atleast 50 percent crpf should be o ly for agniveers.
2024-06-16 17:34:11
After 7 yrs they should be absorbed in other central services. 100 percent of cisf and atleast 50 percent crpf should be o ly for agniveers.
Col( Dr) JP Singh, Veteran
2024-06-16 17:36:59
Though these changes are welcome, the following needs to be done: 1. These changes be ratified in Army Cdr's conference. 2. It should be ensured that the soldiers are not betrayed by not giving them 100% placement later. 3. Atleast 75% overall personnel be retained as recommended by the Armed Forces earlier. 4. All deficiencies in the forces be made up which have increased post Corona due to lack of application of mind by introducing Agniveer Scheme.
2024-06-16 17:36:59
Though these changes are welcome, the following needs to be done: 1. These changes be ratified in Army Cdr's conference. 2. It should be ensured that the soldiers are not betrayed by not giving them 100% placement later. 3. Atleast 75% overall personnel be retained as recommended by the Armed Forces earlier. 4. All deficiencies in the forces be made up which have increased post Corona due to lack of application of mind by introducing Agniveer Scheme.
V P Singh
2024-06-17 00:15:02
The old recruitment system should be adopted. This is not viable for infantry and it compromise with national security
2024-06-17 00:15:02
The old recruitment system should be adopted. This is not viable for infantry and it compromise with national security
Madan Sharma
2024-06-17 00:34:07
Thanks for making changes. Sainik who would not able to make it would be an asset for any organisation they join thereafter.
2024-06-17 00:34:07
Thanks for making changes. Sainik who would not able to make it would be an asset for any organisation they join thereafter.
Raghbir Singh
2024-06-17 01:07:07
It should be better if Govt employees undergo military training and served for five years compulsorily and that should be eligibility criteria for applying for Govt Job and politicians too
2024-06-17 01:07:07
It should be better if Govt employees undergo military training and served for five years compulsorily and that should be eligibility criteria for applying for Govt Job and politicians too
Arun Govil
2024-06-17 01:32:18
Agniveer recruited earlierust fall under the new scheme. Tenure of service should be as a normal soldier with pension
2024-06-17 01:32:18
Agniveer recruited earlierust fall under the new scheme. Tenure of service should be as a normal soldier with pension
Col Pratap Singh Bisht,VSM
2024-06-17 01:50:26
Sai nik Saman scheme should be implemented on the basis of old Colour and Reserve scheme i.e 7years colour service and 8 years Reserve service. where in an OR was coming on reserve list after servi yrs and thereafter was required ti undergo 2 months training at his regimental Center every alternative year, On completion of 15 yrs service including reserve service he was sanctioned Reservist pension for whole life with nomination.
2024-06-17 01:50:26
Sai nik Saman scheme should be implemented on the basis of old Colour and Reserve scheme i.e 7years colour service and 8 years Reserve service. where in an OR was coming on reserve list after servi yrs and thereafter was required ti undergo 2 months training at his regimental Center every alternative year, On completion of 15 yrs service including reserve service he was sanctioned Reservist pension for whole life with nomination.
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2024-06-17 02:42:58
This is a very good sceme and certainly will attract more youths keeping in view the job prospectus after completion this service. Moreover they will have personality Development and can contribute towards service and intregrity of our nation.
2024-06-17 02:42:58
This is a very good sceme and certainly will attract more youths keeping in view the job prospectus after completion this service. Moreover they will have personality Development and can contribute towards service and intregrity of our nation.
Wing Commander Manohar Lal Kapur
2024-06-17 03:51:44
If it is not fake news it is good but still lot if improvenet required like: 1. For technical trades tenure should be 15 years. 3. They must get full leave like permanent soldier. 3. They must be be provided skill development training free of cost after finishing their tenure. 3. They must get houses or factory land on priority on normal payment.
2024-06-17 03:51:44
If it is not fake news it is good but still lot if improvenet required like: 1. For technical trades tenure should be 15 years. 3. They must get full leave like permanent soldier. 3. They must be be provided skill development training free of cost after finishing their tenure. 3. They must get houses or factory land on priority on normal payment.
Shanti C
2024-06-17 04:41:43
What's rate òf interest on FD for 5 year period, for huf with senior citizen as kartha?
2024-06-17 04:41:43
What's rate òf interest on FD for 5 year period, for huf with senior citizen as kartha?
Sudhar prasad sati
2024-06-17 04:53:04
Har sarkari naukari ke liye sat sal sena ki sewa aniwarya honi chaahiye
2024-06-17 04:53:04
Har sarkari naukari ke liye sat sal sena ki sewa aniwarya honi chaahiye
Commodore T I Punnen
2024-06-17 05:28:18
The new Scheme has apparently addressed the draw backs of the Agniveer Scheme.
2024-06-17 05:28:18
The new Scheme has apparently addressed the draw backs of the Agniveer Scheme.
Commodore T I Punnen
2024-06-17 05:30:26
The new Scheme has apparently addressed the draw backs of the Agniveer Scheme.
2024-06-17 05:30:26
The new Scheme has apparently addressed the draw backs of the Agniveer Scheme.
Col N K Jain
2024-06-17 05:34:45
Why call this Sainik samman scheme. I feel all recruitment’s should be done under this scheme. With same pay and allowances that of a soldier. There shall be a retention test after 6 years. 75% should get permanent status and balance be released. The job opportunities like the SS officers. My experience is 15% of recruits feel in comfortable and shall opt for going out . Your weeding out is only 10% and fittest should remain.
2024-06-17 05:34:45
Why call this Sainik samman scheme. I feel all recruitment’s should be done under this scheme. With same pay and allowances that of a soldier. There shall be a retention test after 6 years. 75% should get permanent status and balance be released. The job opportunities like the SS officers. My experience is 15% of recruits feel in comfortable and shall opt for going out . Your weeding out is only 10% and fittest should remain.
Brigadier Sushil Sharma
2024-06-17 05:47:22
Its going to be another blunder , the scheme being implemented without adequate thought given to it . Following needs to be considered Firstly the scheme to be extended to all Agniveers as well Secondly After seven years all those leaving the forces should be guaranteed with Central Govt Job Thirdly The NOK of the martyr should be given Rs 1 Cr and Family pension to the NOK Fourthly Leave benefits should be same as those to other serving soldiers of the Force
2024-06-17 05:47:22
Its going to be another blunder , the scheme being implemented without adequate thought given to it . Following needs to be considered Firstly the scheme to be extended to all Agniveers as well Secondly After seven years all those leaving the forces should be guaranteed with Central Govt Job Thirdly The NOK of the martyr should be given Rs 1 Cr and Family pension to the NOK Fourthly Leave benefits should be same as those to other serving soldiers of the Force
Bad
2024-06-17 05:50:51
It says "Launched by Defense Minister Rajnath Singh on June 23, 2024". Even the spelling of "Defense" is wrong!! We are already discussing it!!?
2024-06-17 05:50:51
It says "Launched by Defense Minister Rajnath Singh on June 23, 2024". Even the spelling of "Defense" is wrong!! We are already discussing it!!?
cdrgiri@yahoo.co.in
2024-06-17 06:12:56
Not a good scheme, u r producing half trained soldiers,they will b used as sahayaks / buddies,they will not get proper courses,no important jobs will b assigned by seniors, post retirement no medical facilities & many more questions, pl ask agniveers who r in service
2024-06-17 06:12:56
Not a good scheme, u r producing half trained soldiers,they will b used as sahayaks / buddies,they will not get proper courses,no important jobs will b assigned by seniors, post retirement no medical facilities & many more questions, pl ask agniveers who r in service
Alok Bhatnagar
2024-06-17 06:25:13
The benefits of the new scheme should be applicable to all the Agniveers also other wise it will lead to unrest in the units and will be de motivating to the Agniveers already serving.
2024-06-17 06:25:13
The benefits of the new scheme should be applicable to all the Agniveers also other wise it will lead to unrest in the units and will be de motivating to the Agniveers already serving.
Shambhu Chopra
2024-06-17 06:25:32
It's a very good improved version of the earlier scheme. It will help in employment of Indian youth.
2024-06-17 06:25:32
It's a very good improved version of the earlier scheme. It will help in employment of Indian youth.
Arni Kumar
2024-06-17 06:30:58
Looks like this is what the army wanted and so is good. But could this not have been done before elections, Modi would have garnenerd few more votes for majority. BJP missed a trick...getting lazy.
2024-06-17 06:30:58
Looks like this is what the army wanted and so is good. But could this not have been done before elections, Modi would have garnenerd few more votes for majority. BJP missed a trick...getting lazy.
Virender Ruhil
2024-06-17 06:31:40
Agniveer was something against nothing. Sainik Samman is upscaled agnoveer. There can be more and more and more--to the beneficary nothig is enough. Soon there will be a demand for more benefits, till the Govt ends up spending more than what it did ab initio. Instead make 5 yrs mil service compulsory for all as a precondition to other Govt jobs. After 5 years reports, option for civ govt jobs or continuation.
2024-06-17 06:31:40
Agniveer was something against nothing. Sainik Samman is upscaled agnoveer. There can be more and more and more--to the beneficary nothig is enough. Soon there will be a demand for more benefits, till the Govt ends up spending more than what it did ab initio. Instead make 5 yrs mil service compulsory for all as a precondition to other Govt jobs. After 5 years reports, option for civ govt jobs or continuation.
Col SP Shukla
2024-06-17 06:33:01
Compulsory Military Service for 2/1 yrs after class 12th and NCC up to class 12th.
2024-06-17 06:33:01
Compulsory Military Service for 2/1 yrs after class 12th and NCC up to class 12th.
Col Pankaj Kulshrestha
2024-06-17 06:54:28
**Increase the permanent cadre to 75 %. Recommend the same for CAPF and Railways
2024-06-17 06:54:28
**Increase the permanent cadre to 75 %. Recommend the same for CAPF and Railways
Maj Gen Vishnu Mulye (Retd)
2024-06-17 06:59:49
Instead of another scheme, allow Agneveers after 4 years to leave who wish to, and treat the rest as per the men recruited under the present rules.
2024-06-17 06:59:49
Instead of another scheme, allow Agneveers after 4 years to leave who wish to, and treat the rest as per the men recruited under the present rules.
Rajendra Singh
2024-06-17 07:07:09
7CPC talks of recruitment in PMFs and from there deputation AFs. Why, if at all required, no lateral absorption in PMFs after seven years? Probably MHA lobby is more committed than babus in MoD..
2024-06-17 07:07:09
7CPC talks of recruitment in PMFs and from there deputation AFs. Why, if at all required, no lateral absorption in PMFs after seven years? Probably MHA lobby is more committed than babus in MoD..
Narayanankutty CP
2024-06-17 07:17:13
Sainik Samman scheme 2024 is really very attractive for eligible unemployed youth and hat's off to the Govt. of India for introducing such a fantastic scheme. ? ?
2024-06-17 07:17:13
Sainik Samman scheme 2024 is really very attractive for eligible unemployed youth and hat's off to the Govt. of India for introducing such a fantastic scheme. ? ?
Indra raj pradhan
2024-06-17 07:59:56
Military service should be compulsory before employment other govt job, central/ State govt, and most required for indian doggy politicians ,,,how's life of soilders.
2024-06-17 07:59:56
Military service should be compulsory before employment other govt job, central/ State govt, and most required for indian doggy politicians ,,,how's life of soilders.
Col Balachandran Retd
2024-06-17 09:33:12
This scheme is also likely to fail if the Govt is only worried about Pension liability of 13 lack soldiers & not about the security of the nation. 60% retained will be again a demotivated lot due to lack of promotion avenues. Only 10-15% will get promoted. It is better to give them a lateral entry to CAPF or state police forces rather than keeping those demotivated lots. There shall also be a dedicated military industry collaboration cell to identify the industry needs & feed the ex soldiers of technical arms to compatible industries. Gen duty soldiers can be absorbed into HR functions. Present state level ESM cells are not at all effective.
2024-06-17 09:33:12
This scheme is also likely to fail if the Govt is only worried about Pension liability of 13 lack soldiers & not about the security of the nation. 60% retained will be again a demotivated lot due to lack of promotion avenues. Only 10-15% will get promoted. It is better to give them a lateral entry to CAPF or state police forces rather than keeping those demotivated lots. There shall also be a dedicated military industry collaboration cell to identify the industry needs & feed the ex soldiers of technical arms to compatible industries. Gen duty soldiers can be absorbed into HR functions. Present state level ESM cells are not at all effective.
Col Balachandran Retd
2024-06-17 09:33:25
This scheme is also likely to fail if the Govt is only worried about Pension liability of 13 lack soldiers & not about the security of the nation. 60% retained will be again a demotivated lot due to lack of promotion avenues. Only 10-15% will get promoted. It is better to give them a lateral entry to CAPF or state police forces rather than keeping those demotivated lots. There shall also be a dedicated military industry collaboration cell to identify the industry needs & feed the ex soldiers of technical arms to compatible industries. Gen duty soldiers can be absorbed into HR functions. Present state level ESM cells are not at all effective.
2024-06-17 09:33:25
This scheme is also likely to fail if the Govt is only worried about Pension liability of 13 lack soldiers & not about the security of the nation. 60% retained will be again a demotivated lot due to lack of promotion avenues. Only 10-15% will get promoted. It is better to give them a lateral entry to CAPF or state police forces rather than keeping those demotivated lots. There shall also be a dedicated military industry collaboration cell to identify the industry needs & feed the ex soldiers of technical arms to compatible industries. Gen duty soldiers can be absorbed into HR functions. Present state level ESM cells are not at all effective.
Bipin Kumar
2024-06-17 11:15:33
Hope feedback from lower unit has taken. When the future is appears unsafe, to command such troops is bit difficult. Money given in one go can not be manage properly be that gp of boys. It is further difficult to get job in civil where aspirant are already in queue with big education digrees. Better make it regular recruitment and short service recruitment as for the officers. Let citizen choose where they wish to join. And then give a chance to the short service recruitment to covert as regular according to their performance in seven yrs This will tackle all and the name and fame of Indian fauzi will be remain as it is
2024-06-17 11:15:33
Hope feedback from lower unit has taken. When the future is appears unsafe, to command such troops is bit difficult. Money given in one go can not be manage properly be that gp of boys. It is further difficult to get job in civil where aspirant are already in queue with big education digrees. Better make it regular recruitment and short service recruitment as for the officers. Let citizen choose where they wish to join. And then give a chance to the short service recruitment to covert as regular according to their performance in seven yrs This will tackle all and the name and fame of Indian fauzi will be remain as it is
Bipin Kumar
2024-06-17 11:18:28
Hope feedback from lower unit has taken. When the future is appears unsafe, to command such troops is bit difficult. Money given in one go can not be manage properly be that gp of boys. It is further difficult to get job in civil where aspirant are already in queue with big education digrees. Better make it regular recruitment and short service recruitment as for the officers. Let citizen choose where they wish to join. And then give a chance to the short service recruitment to covert as regular according to their performance in seven yrs This will tackle all and the name and fame of Indian fauzi will be remain as it is
2024-06-17 11:18:28
Hope feedback from lower unit has taken. When the future is appears unsafe, to command such troops is bit difficult. Money given in one go can not be manage properly be that gp of boys. It is further difficult to get job in civil where aspirant are already in queue with big education digrees. Better make it regular recruitment and short service recruitment as for the officers. Let citizen choose where they wish to join. And then give a chance to the short service recruitment to covert as regular according to their performance in seven yrs This will tackle all and the name and fame of Indian fauzi will be remain as it is
Prem Hooda
2024-06-17 11:54:58
Permanent quota be increased to 75 per cent and minimum 5 years service compulsory for PMF
2024-06-17 11:54:58
Permanent quota be increased to 75 per cent and minimum 5 years service compulsory for PMF
Capt Raveendranath Sudarsan
2024-06-17 13:21:21
Better the selection percentage to be increased 80%. 20% rejection id reasonable.
2024-06-17 13:21:21
Better the selection percentage to be increased 80%. 20% rejection id reasonable.
Capt Raveendranath Sudarsan
2024-06-17 13:26:39
Why agniveer scheme only for Defence. Why not in all government jobs? Rather than rejecting few after a particular period, why not make selection more transparent and with real stringent standard for all.
2024-06-17 13:26:39
Why agniveer scheme only for Defence. Why not in all government jobs? Rather than rejecting few after a particular period, why not make selection more transparent and with real stringent standard for all.
NK Sanjit saha
2024-06-17 15:39:25
Totally stupid scheme. Every morning when I go to the ground, I see today's youths do not have any interest in joining Indian Army as Agniveer, instead they want to join Para military forces so that they can atleast retire at the age of 60.
2024-06-17 15:39:25
Totally stupid scheme. Every morning when I go to the ground, I see today's youths do not have any interest in joining Indian Army as Agniveer, instead they want to join Para military forces so that they can atleast retire at the age of 60.
Sun Maj Harischandra Uttam Savant(Retired) SPS
2024-06-17 16:35:20
Sir, the first para itself reads that the scheme is launched on 23 June 2024,,which has created an understand that it is a fake news. The sentence should have been ss per the writing under the dub para ".*IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SCHEME" to the effect that the theme will be launched wef 23 June , 2024
2024-06-17 16:35:20
Sir, the first para itself reads that the scheme is launched on 23 June 2024,,which has created an understand that it is a fake news. The sentence should have been ss per the writing under the dub para ".*IMPLEMENTATION OF THE SCHEME" to the effect that the theme will be launched wef 23 June , 2024
Arun Jadhav
2024-06-17 18:58:10
Why this sort of scheme for armed forces only.It should be done with all government jobs.
2024-06-17 18:58:10
Why this sort of scheme for armed forces only.It should be done with all government jobs.
Arun Jadhav
2024-06-17 19:01:03
Why this sort of scheme for armed forces only.It should be done with all government jobs.
2024-06-17 19:01:03
Why this sort of scheme for armed forces only.It should be done with all government jobs.
Arun Jadhav
2024-06-17 19:01:17
Why this sort of scheme for armed forces only.It should be done with all government jobs.
2024-06-17 19:01:17
Why this sort of scheme for armed forces only.It should be done with all government jobs.
Col Hari Prasad S
2024-06-18 00:50:49
Though the Sainik Samman Scheme looks like an improved version of Agnipath, Short Service Engagement won't be attractive to the youths of this Nation. Anyone who joins Military service should get pension to make it attractive. Further, enough safeguards must be taken to avoid the released Javans reaching wrong groups.
2024-06-18 00:50:49
Though the Sainik Samman Scheme looks like an improved version of Agnipath, Short Service Engagement won't be attractive to the youths of this Nation. Anyone who joins Military service should get pension to make it attractive. Further, enough safeguards must be taken to avoid the released Javans reaching wrong groups.
Col V N Thapar
2024-06-18 05:53:47
Now it appears fairly reasonable. This deep thinking should have been done earlier when the Agniveer Scheme was launched. What will the new recruits under this scheme called sepoys or some other name?
2024-06-18 05:53:47
Now it appears fairly reasonable. This deep thinking should have been done earlier when the Agniveer Scheme was launched. What will the new recruits under this scheme called sepoys or some other name?
Col V N Thapar
2024-06-18 05:55:19
Now it appears fairly reasonable. This deep thinking should have been done earlier when the Agniveer Scheme was launched. What will the recruits under this scheme called sepoys or some other name?
2024-06-18 05:55:19
Now it appears fairly reasonable. This deep thinking should have been done earlier when the Agniveer Scheme was launched. What will the recruits under this scheme called sepoys or some other name?
K Mishra
2024-06-18 10:52:42
Who will take a reject after 7 years. After 4 years, someone still had a chance.
2024-06-18 10:52:42
Who will take a reject after 7 years. After 4 years, someone still had a chance.
RAJU KS
2024-06-18 14:30:01
Very Good. EXCELLENT decision I am proud of you Indian army I love you Too Jai Hind Jai Bharat,????
2024-06-18 14:30:01
Very Good. EXCELLENT decision I am proud of you Indian army I love you Too Jai Hind Jai Bharat,????
RAJU KS
2024-06-18 14:33:03
Very Good. EXCELLENT decision I am proud of you military service should be compulsory before employment in govt jobs Indian army I love you Too Jai Hind Jai Bharat,????
2024-06-18 14:33:03
Very Good. EXCELLENT decision I am proud of you military service should be compulsory before employment in govt jobs Indian army I love you Too Jai Hind Jai Bharat,????
Joginder Singh
2024-06-19 13:03:11
The revised scheme should be applicable to all the agneevirs , who have been recruited so far .
2024-06-19 13:03:11
The revised scheme should be applicable to all the agneevirs , who have been recruited so far .
Lt Col Attar Singh Panghal
2024-06-22 06:25:29
I fail to understand what is the sainik samman in this new blunder. The better way would have been - make the agniveers fully enrolled soilders and then after 8 years send 25 % on reserve liability. 40 lakhs financial benefits is a joke of highest order since it is nothing but monthly emoluments for a job they are going to get.
2024-06-22 06:25:29
I fail to understand what is the sainik samman in this new blunder. The better way would have been - make the agniveers fully enrolled soilders and then after 8 years send 25 % on reserve liability. 40 lakhs financial benefits is a joke of highest order since it is nothing but monthly emoluments for a job they are going to get.
